St. Maximos' Hut

"Praying for the demise of religion"
The Rev. Kenneth Chalker, of the First United Methodist Church in Cleveland, is doing so because of a recent ruling by the Methodist Church's judicial council reinstating a pastor fired over a dispute over the church's teachings on homosexuality.

And I thought the Church was the body of Christ! How can a Christian pray for the demise of religion?

Rev. Chalker's op-ed raises two interesting points. (I'm leaving the merits of the Methodists' disputes over homosexuality out of this because I am not a Methodist and am unfamiliar with how they deal with the topic).

1) Rev. Chalker writes

In these religious times, church organizations are forsaking their initial spiritual impetus and going over to the dark side. Employing labored, amplified heavy breathing, they have become religious institutions. Like most institutions, religious ones are very much interested in preserving their various ways of doing things. That is, in large part, why there are judicial councils. Their job is not to keep the faith. Their job is to keep the rules and make folks think that "the rules" and "the faith" are the same thing. Most often, they are not.

He argues that there is a distinction between "the faith" and "the rules". By definition, to have a body of coherent beliefs makes it is necessary to exclude beliefs which contradict the body of coherent beliefs. Thus one cannot be a Christian if one denies the divinity of Christ. It just isn't logically possible.

If the body of beliefs is beyond "everything is beautiful in its own way" (apologies to Ray Stevens), sometimes the substance of the existing beliefs will be in conflict with other beliefs. One or the other has to give and the organization in question will have to decide which set of beliefs it is keep and which it is discarding. The organization needs a means of doing this - the Roman Church ultimately has the authority of the Pope, the Orthodox church has a messier and lengthy process (which I earlier argued is Hayekian in many respects) involving the church as a whole, and so on. The Methodist Church has a judicial council. Assuming the procedures followed were appropriate, its decisions can only be attacked for not accurately following the substance of the church's teachings. Yet this is not what Rev. Chalker does - he attacks the idea of having "rules" apart from "faith" and having a body to adjudicate over those rules. Could the judicial council legitimately remove a minister who insisted that Christ was not divine? Perhaps that would fall into "faith," although there is no real principle evident in Rev. Chalker's essay to distinguish "faith" from "rules."

2) The core of Christianity seems pretty meager in Rev. Chalker's formulation:

I believe what all world faith traditions reveal. Namely, that God is Spirit and thus never captured in a picture, idea, book or creed. Rather, the Holy One is always mysterious, awe-inspiring, hope-raising and fear-relieving. Encounters with the Spirit are at once and always an amazing grace.

Religion, however, is what Satan devises as a way of confusing faithful people. Holy wars, suicide bombings and other religiously motivated killings prove the point.


In contrast, consider the Nicene Creed (the Orthodox version is here, the Western version differs slightly and is here.)


I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible:

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Only-begotten, Begotten of the Father before all ages, Light of Light, True God of True God, Begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by whom all things were made:

Who for us men and for our salvation came down from the heavens, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man;

And was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried;

And rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures;

And ascended into the heavens, and sitteth at the right hand of the Father;

And shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead, Whose kingdom shall have no end.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceedeth from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, Who spake by the Prophets;

In One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

I Confess one Baptism for the remission of sins.

I look for the Resurrection of the dead,

And the life of the age to come, Amen

This is quite different from Rev. Chalker's encounters with the Spirit. This is a set of specific beliefs (does that make them rules) and it most definitely excludes people who do not affirm them from the Church. You either believe it or you do not - no clever dodges about being "spiritual but not religious" permitted.
Posted by Andy Morriss on Monday December 12, 2005 at 1:49pm
Isaac Crawford (mail) (www):
I don't really understand the second part of the post. It is clear that Rev. Chalker would not embrace the Nicene Creed perhaps only because of the one line "In one Holy Catholic (with capital or lower case C) and Apostolic Church." So what? His idea that the infinite cannot be contained with any language or human thought is hardly original, but it is not very controversial either. It is quite possible to have firm beliefs without "rules". It is possible to believe in a God that you do not understand, that is beyond what you are capable of knowing. It is also possible to hate the institution and love the Object of Worship if one feels that the institution is getting in the way of experiencing Him or is directing you away from Him. The "rules" that you refer to leave many underwhelmed. They offer relatively simple answers to complicated questions. "Is economics true?" is clearly an unanswerable question when limited to a yes or no answer. I, and I suppose Rev. Chalker, feel that the question, "Was Jesus sent here to die for us under Pilate" to be similarly unsatisfying when limited to a binary answer as the Creed would seem to do. Any rule (which I am assuming are beliefs that have been codified) devised by institutions is incapable of taking into account the whole of Him and His creation and lacks the necessary nuance to be completely true. Belief in experience and belief in belief itself are very powerful ways to live a Christian life. Logic can get you into real trouble when dealing with what you can't understand...

Isaac
12.12.2005 7:30pm
boringmadedull (mail) (www):
Don't want to take this too far, but:
1. I'm pleasantly surprised that the judicial council saw fit to affirm that, in order to join the church, you need to subscribe to some orthodox and unfashionable, beliefs;
2. I'm not surprised that certain Methodist ministers skate very close to abandoning Christianity in public statements - how else are we to understand:

"I believe what all world faith traditions reveal. Namely, that God is Spirit and thus never captured in a picture, idea, book or creed".

"Captured" - in His Totality? No. But - Christianity is a revealed religion, something not of Man's doing. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14.6)Pretty exclusive claim, even if I'm fuddy-duddy enough to use the King James.


12.12.2005 10:23pm
Tom Bogart (mail):
Well, I am a Methodist, and our regular weekly service includes an affirmation of faith. The Nicene creed is one of the affirmations that we use, and it (along with the others) is printed in the Methodist hymnal. The issue of how to organize a faith-based organization is a deep one. I came to the Methodist church at marriage, having been raised Southern Baptist. It was a bit of a culture shock to discover bishops appointing pastors as compared to the congregational call to a pastor. But this is an example of different rules, not of a contrast between faith and rules.
12.13.2005 8:24am
Jaye (mail):
In the conservative charismatic churches I once attended, you would often hear "religion" attacked as bad, but in that case, religion meant things done repetitively to please God and gain points toward heaven (which, as stated there, I can agree with, but now I think they misunderstood the purpose of the "repetitions").

But Rev. Chalker's definition seems to be more, "I am nice in a non-judgemental sort of way, therefore I am spiritual." (Although I seriously wonder how non-judgemental and nice and spiritual he might seem if I were to, oh, say, follow him around on the job for the day. Please. There must be a real person under that collar somewhere.)

And though I think the conservative anti-religionist might roll his eyes at the Rev, it is play from his own book, just to different ends: "I have the Spirit inside. What on earth do I need you or anybody else to tell me what to do." (Well, maybe the same end, after all, just a different flavor.)

A long time ago, I ran across a teaching while still involved with a charismatic church. In 1 Corinthians 1, Paul writes about divisions in that church:

11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

The Protestant teacher made a special point of that, "Well! I follow Christ!" attitude. Though it seems so "spiritual" to say that (taught the Protestant teacher), the ones that declared it (and thus rejecting authority) were most probably the most prone to self-deception.

It was probably one of the many tiny seeds that led me to the Orthodox Church.
12.13.2005 12:13pm